Why do we have to pay people not to work when other departments urgently need help? Tom Yamachika, president of the Tax Foundation of Hawaii, will explain the article he wrote for Civil Beat on the subject of what needs to be done to claraify the status of Public Employees who are paid without working during the coronavirus crisis but who are unwilling to work in other government positions and functions. The contention between David Ige and the HGEA is unresolved and has been controversial. The host for this episode is Jay Fidell. The guest for this episode is Tom Yamachika.